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Electoral College: PA, NJ Flip to Obama – Obama takes Lead

Same as last time there are not actually *new* polls per se, but rather pollster.com added new pages for New Jersey and Pennsylvania which included some polls I hadn’t seen before that would fit into my “last 5 polls” criteria (and also are more recent than one year before the 2008 election).

When I added those polls in to the mix, Pennsylvania and New Jersey both flipped from weak McCain to weak Obama. This was enough to change the overall lead. We’re now at Obama 283, McCain 252 and 3 with no polls.

I think I’ve made a couple of additional decisions on how I’ll do these.

First of all, I won’t make any retroactive changes to previous days totals. So, for instance, I found out about new polls today that are in the “five most recent polls” I will let that change my average from today forward, but I won’t go back into the chart and try to retroactively correct yesterday’s numbers to be as if I had known about those polls earlier.

Second, I’ll stick with the “last 5 polls” number even when Pollster has a trendline. It will be a slightly different method, with slightly different results, but I’m OK with that.

Oh, and yeah, I will eventually get to splitting the “weak” states up. Just probably not during the week.

Electoral College: Ohio Flips to Obama

Pollster.com didn’t put any new Obama vs McCain matchup polls on their poll update page that I monitor. But they did put up new charts for Ohio and Florida and lo and behold, those pages listed a bunch of polls for each state that had not previously been called out on the update page. Well, at least I didn’t see them when I went to look when I started this thing. I (so far) have not gone back and retroactively added the impact of these polls to my lines going back into the past. But I made sure I had the last five for each state and included those in my average for today. The result is that Ohio flips from weak McCain to weak Obama.

This puts us at 288 electoral votes for McCain, 247 electoral votes for Obama and 3 electoral votes with no polls.

Of course, that is throwing all the “weak” states to the candidate that is ahead, and some of those contests are VERY close.

I had mentioned with my last update that I had decided to split the “weak” into those races closer than 5% and those from 5% to 10%. I meant to do this over the weekend, but didn’t get a chance. I’ll try to make time for it this next coming weekend, because I think it will let you read a lot more out of this chart.

I may go back and add in those additional historical polls to change the “past” portion of the lines too. Maybe. I haven’t decided on that one yet. :-)

For the moment, I’m also sticking with the “last 5 polls” method. I had mentioned earlier that when pollster.com started publishing trend lines I might switch to that. I may still. But for now I’ll stick with the 5 polls method.

Electoral College: Polls for Every State! McCain Wins!

Yesterday SurveyUSA put out head to head poll results for Obama vs McCain in all 50 states. (They did the same for Clinton vs McCain, but I’ll worry about that when/if she takes the delegate lead.) This means we now have polls for everything… except the District of Columbia, where SurveyUSA didn’t bother. Now, I think we all know that DC is about the safest 3 electoral votes the Democrats have, but I’m going to leave it in the “no polls” category until there is actually a poll.

Anyway, my end results differ somewhat from SurveyUSA’s because there are a number of states where I had previous poll results and I average the last few of those (up to five) into my results as well. In general this hurt Obama. SurveyUSA makes the race out with Obama winning 280 to 258 (they go ahead and give Obama DC’s 3 electoral votes). This includes of course some VERY weak states well within the margin of error.

In any case, my chart comes out a bit different when some of the other polls on some of these states are taken into account. The states where I differ from SurveyUSA are Minnesota, New Mexico, Ohio and Virginia. In all four cases SurveyUSA gives them to Obama, but when the earlier poll results get factored in, they slip over to McCain. That is 48 electoral votes moving from one side to another and so of course makes a huge difference.

I won’t itemize all the results in all the states here, those who are interested can look at the wiki page.

End result after tons of new states and updates to all the states where I already had polls…

McCain wins 308 to 227. (DC’s 3 votes not included, but would not matter.)

The breakdown:

  • Strong McCain: 93 Electoral Votes
  • Weak McCain: 215 Electoral Votes
  • No Polls: 3 Electoral Votes
  • Weak Obama: 88 Electoral Votes
  • Strong Obama: 139 Electoral Votes

Note the HUGE number of electoral votes in the “weak” categories for both candidates. For these charts weak means their lead in the state is less than 10% based on my running average of polls. One thing this makes clear to me is the answer to the question I posed in my February 29th update. Namely it would be very helpful to break down this “weak” grouping into the less than 5% lead and the 5% to 10% group.

I still think that given what we’ve seen so far this year, even a 9% lead really is a pretty weak lead and can evaporate in less than a week if the right things happen. However, it will still be useful to map out what the “really weak” states are on both sides, which will probably become the real battlegrounds.

I guess I’ll take a look at doing that breakdown this weekend.

Electoral College: First Poll for New Jersey

New Rasmussen McCain vs Obama poll for New Jersey. This is the first such poll for New Jersey and starts New Jersey out in the “Weak McCain” category (leading by 2%).

So now we have Obama 157, Clinton 151, and 230 electoral votes that still have no polls at all.