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Remaining States

One last note on polls for today.

Pollster.com has poll numbers for seven of the remaining ten contents on the Democratic side.

Rounding slightly, from my previous calculations (I didn’t redo them today) Clinton needs to pick up about 58% of all remaining delegates (including super delegates) in order to win.

In each of the seven states with polls, I renormalized the numbers to be out of 100% (essentially redistributing “undecided” and “other” evenly between Clinton and Obama) and then looked at the margins.

If we approximate things by saying that the Clinton percentage of popular vote arrived at this way will approximate percentage of delegates… here is how things look as of today using pollster’s trendline numbers.

  • Kentucky: Clinton 67%, Obama 33%
  • West Virginia: Clinton 65%, Obama 35%
  • Oregon: Clinton 60%, Obama 40%
  • Puerto Rico: Clinton 57%, Obama 43%
  • Indiana: Clinton 55%, Obama 45%
  • Pennsylvania: Clinton 53%, Obama 47%
  • North Carolina: Obama 60%, Clinton 40%

Now, looking here there are actually 3, maybe 4 states where Clinton is winning by big enough margins to be on pace to win if those votes were held right now. (In reality, the 58% or so she needs will change with the results of each state.) That is pretty strong.

More to the point, Obama is only clearly actually AHEAD in *one* state.

Basically Clinton’s path to the nomination is this… screw the current delegate count… win 8 or 9 out of 10 of the remaining votes. In aggregate, through this she will NOT be on the “winning pace”. Once all the votes are counted, she will probably need 65% or so of the remaining unpledged superdelegates to vote for her in order to win. Looking the other way, this means Obama only needs 35% of them to take the win. 35% is not a big number, surely Obama would be able to convince 35% of the remaining superdelegates.

But she will argue that she has the momentum, she is on a roll. She has won X number in a row. She will argue that the fact she is still behind is irrelevant. She may be able to find some combinations of counts that show her ahead in the popular vote. (Although there is no real popular vote count, as in many caucus states they only ever counted delegates won, and actual original votes were never counted.) And then she will say that because of this she deserves to win.

In the mean time, she will continue throwing the kitchen sink at Obama, and hoping that he stumbles and falls more. She wants to make him look weak and damaged coming out of this process. Then she continues to argue that because of that he can’t win. And that the Democrats have to pick her if they want to stand a chance. That picking Obama would be political suicide.

Will that manage to convince 65% of the remaining superdelegates? Will Obama be able to convince 35% or so to stick with him?

I don’t know.

The numbers are clear. She is badly behind. She should not be able to win.

But she does have a path to victory.

And there are ways I could see it play out that would result in her actually getting the nomination in the end.

I still think it is unlikely. But it is not impossible.

But to do it she will end up inflicting massive amounts of damage.

Very depressing.

Yup, Five Percent Didn’t Last Long

The pollster.com trend lines in PA are more than 5% apart again based on new polls today which are all post-“bitterflap”. One week left to see how it all plays out in the end.

Drips and Drabs

This is getting annoying. One superdelegate each for Obama and Clinton.

One week until a real primary where more than just one or two delegates will get allocated.

Under Five Percent in Pennsylvania

For the first time today in Pollster.com’s trendline of multiple polls, Clinton’s lead in Pennsylvania is under 5%. Of course, there is only one poll so far that includes some data after the blow up about Obama’s “bitter” comments. And that one poll shows Clinton with a 20 point lead. But the trend line, at least for now, has dropped to below 5%.

We’ll see if it stays that way after more new polls come in. Personally, I wouldn’t bet on it.

But I guess we shall see.

King County Democratic Convention

My live comments on the event are here and here. I also spoke more at length on the subject on the latest Curmudgeon’s Corner.

Also, a post at Slog talking about the event from another perspective. And they have a picture of the polar bear!

And one more note. All of this was about the Platform… a document with no force of law, no binding authority on anybody, not even the party’s candidates. In other words, a document that is completely, totally, and utterly irrelevant to absolutely everything.

Unless I decide in 4 years to go to some of the Republican events to compare and contrast, I think this will be my last “party” event. They just demoralize, destress and depress me.

And I am serious when I say the main result of going to something like this was to dramatically lessen the chances of me ever voting for anybody who participated in it.

It was just sad.

Cluster

I didn’t think it was possible for a process to be more screwed up than last week’s caucus.

I was wrong.

Lesson learned: Never let a group of Democrats run ANYTHING.

A Little Here, A Little There

Two more superdelegates for Clinton.

Two more superdelegates for Obama.

Unforced Error

We’ve talked a bit on Curmudgeon’s Corner about how given the math, Hillary’s main path to a victory centers around just waiting around and hoping Obama stumbles and falls. This thing yesterday is exactly the kind of thing that should have both Hillary and McCain jumping up and down with glee.

You go into some of these small towns in Pennsylvania, and like a lot of small towns in the Midwest … they get bitter, they cling to guns or religion or antipathy to people who aren’t like them or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment as a way to explain their frustrations.

— Barack Obama, 6 Apr 2008

Note the “…” of course. This is a small bit of a much larger statement. And in context what he says makes sense as part of a larger semi-academic analysis of why certain voters tend to prefer to vote on “values issues” even when it appears to go against their direct economic interests. Of course, even with the FULL CONTEXT the statement will rub a lot of people the wrong way, and offend many others. Let alone when you take just the little bit above with no context what so ever. People are already having a field day with it.

And guess which people are the most likely to have issues with this sort of statement? Well, of course those on the right that would never consider Obama anyway, but also those independants or center-right democrats that might consider an Obama, but right now are pretty uncertain about him. Many of those folks may be Hillary voters right now, or if they were not on Thursday, they are now. And guess what, there are a bunch of these kind of voters in some states, like say… Pennsylvania!

You know, I’m starting to get Ron Paul flashbacks here. I mean, I know part of the appeal is being straightforward and saying what you really think without being overly political or pulling punches or doing that say what the audience wants to hear thing… but there is certainly a time to just SHUT THE HELL UP and not say things that will get your opponants all riled up and push the folks on the fence AWAY from you.

Sigh.

Anyway, one good set of comments on this whole hoopla is here:

Obama’s “Gaffe:” Some Perspective
(Mark Ambinder, The Atlantic)

There is some truth to this. Even John McCain has expressed a similar sentiment about immigration politics.

But the perilous words for Obama are “bitter,” “cling to,” “guns” and “religion.” Those disinclined to put themselves in Obama’s head will read the sentences and see Obama dismissing both religion and American gun culture the opiates of the masses and suggesting that their faith and lifestyle are the product of their bitterness. Voters may believe that one’s position on cultural issues is a better reflection of their inner values than one’s position on economics.

The elite media and most Democrats will say… “yeah.. .So? Obama is simply describing world as we know it.” His opponents and people who are inclined to view Obama as an elitist will say, “he is dismissing the culture and religion of working class whites.”

Despite his working class upbringing, Obama’s hyperconfidence sometimes translates as holier-than-thou, elitist, aristocratic, Dukakis-esque. Republicans know that these attributes aren’t popular in middle America, so they will use every opportunity to remind independents and moderates about them.

There are tons of comments around on these comments and their potential effects, this is one of the first I saw that seemed to give somewhat of a real analysis rather than just “Gotcha!” posts from the right side of the blogosphere. :-) Of course, I’ve been doing some other things, so I’m about 23 hours behind in Google Reader right now, so I’m sure a ton more has been said by now. :-)

Oh yeah, to be clear, I don’t think this one thing is a campaign killer or anything. It is recoverable. It is just the sort of shooting yourself in the foot that is completely unnecessary. And several of these in a row could be a big problem. But Obama SHOULD be able to recover from this one. But he has been “catching up” in PA, and this may stop that trend.

(Edit on 13 Apr 2008: Corrected the date of the Obama quote from the 11th to the 6th. It happened earlier, just didn’t hit the blogosphere until the 11th.)

Thirteen and a Half Hours

It finally ended thirteen and a half hours after it started. I am home now. But I am tired, so I won’t post anything more about it here. I expect I may have a few words to say about it in the next episode of Curmudgeon’s Corner though. (Which should be out in the next 24 hours or so.)

At the LD Caucus

Well, I am here. Signed in as an Obama delegate to the Washington 41st Legislative District Democratic Caucus. It is hot. It is crowded. There are political signs everywhere. They are about to start.

And yes I stood in the right line to put my name in to run for delegate for the next level. My odds are not good though. Judging from the lines there are a few hundred people running for 49 spots. In theory each person gets to speak one minute to try to convince people to vote for them. One guy is giving out candy with his name on it.

I have no candy.