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It has been way too long since I posted an ancestor. My only excuse is that it has been a busy couple of months. The next one in order is my Father’s Father’s Father’s Mother, Fannie Dodson Ramseur.
Pictures are getting scarce in this generation and while I have pictures of John Russell Minter‘s next wife, who acted as step-mother to all of Fannie’s children after her death, I have none of Fannie herself.
I don’t have a whole lot on Fannie other than the fact that she was born in 1845 in North Carolina, married in 1868, had six children, then died tragically at age 36 in 1881:
There was a fire in the John Russell Minter home in Sedalia, SC on 15 Mar 1881. Daughter Fannie’s dress caught fire before the fireplace. Her mother Fannie, pregnant with a near-term boy, rushed to help and her clothes also caught on fire. Daughter Fannie died that day; Mother Fannie and baby died 10 days later.
Oh, and one other thing, not really about her, but close I guess. She was the sister of Stephen Dodson Ramseur who was the youngest Confederate General during the Civil War. I have a biography of him in my very large pile of books I want to read, but I have not yet read it.
So her brother has a Wikipedia entry, and her daughter Josephine married Nathaniel Barksdale Dial who also has a Wikipedia entry. That’s the closest I’ve gotten so far to an ancestor with a Wikipedia entry. Which isn’t to say that close, but one and two degrees away I guess. :-) I know there will eventually be ancestors with Wikipedia entries of their own, but I’m not sure just how deep I’ll have to go to get there yet. :-)
 It has been a few weeks since I last posted an ancestor. That was Olive Sarah Wright who finished up the 3rd generation back from me. Now it is time to start the 4th. We start with my father’s father’s father’s father. This is the first of my ancestors in this breadth first search who lived through the US Civil War. On the Confederate side this time. I actually have a decent amount of info on John Russell too.
- John lived from 1833 to 1913, most of the time in South Carolina, with a brief interlude in California. He was married three times, with six children from the middle marriage.
- Was a Farmer and Merchant
- During the Civil War worked in the Confederate State Treasury Department.
- He went to California for an unspecified time and was successful in real estate.
- He gained a financial footing to run a successful farm and educate all of his children through college.
- He returned to South Carolina but would not sign the loyalty oaths required under reconstruction.
- John Russell was to marry Theodocia Roseboro of Chester, SC but she died on the wedding day. Remaining a batchelor for several years, John Russell acquired Sedalia house from the old Bobo family and established it as a plantation after the Civil War. It was originally a two room log house. He added to it until it was finally a large 12 room home with 100 foot long piazza. John Russell was called Papa.
- There was a fire in the John Russell Minter home in Sedalia, SC on 15 Mar 1881. Daughter Fannie’s dress caught fire before the fireplace. Her mother Fannie, pregnant with a near-term boy, rushed to help and her clothes also caught on fire. Daughter Fannie died that day; Mother Fannie and baby died 10 days later.
- He was known all over the state as a splendid farmer who specialized in cotton, corn, cattle raising and other diversified crops. He won an exhibition in New Orleans on cotton and corn.
- He was elected without running to the South Carolina legislature.
- He built and supported Enoree Presbyterian Church and was elder there until he moved to Laurens in 1891.
- At Laurens John Russell built a lovely Victorian frame home which extended beyond a creek and to another street.
- Son James Ethelywn and family lived with John Russell and “Mother Catherine” in Laurens until her death in 1906.
- From 1906 until John Russell’s death son Edward Perrin and family moved in to be with John Russell.
- Later in life as the family patriarch known as “Papa” with a short a
As usual, click on the picture for more information.
With Olive Sarah Wright I have completed posting another generation back. So time once again to see WHERE Sam’s roots are from.
The break down of Generation 2:
25% North Carolina
25% Kentucky
25% Arkansas
25% Vermont
And now Generation 3:
25% South Carolina
25% Kentucky
25% Ohio
25% Vermont
Kind of interesting that even though we have 8 people now instead of 4, we’re still just in four states (and one country). Both parents of the person born in North Carolina were born in South Carolina. Both parents of the person born in Arkansas were born in Ohio. And the people born in Kentucky and Vermont both had parents born in the same state they were born in.
The center of mass seems to move a little to the southwest. Which one again makes me think I should actually make maps and calculate the real center of mass and stuff.
But once again, I won’t. At least not now.
 This is my mother’s mother’s mother.
She went by Sarah, not Olive. So much so that when I was putting this together there was a lot of discussion about if she was really Sarah Olive or Olive Sarah. The one online reference I had found said Olive Sarah, but my mom was SURE that is was Sarah Olive. I actually switched it back and forth a couple times.
I finally settled on Olive Sarah when my mom sent me something my Uncle David (the family genealogy expert) that listed her as O. Sarah. But regardless of her given name, she went by Sarah.
She died young. Hit by a car while she was walking as a pedestrian in 1917. She was 37. There were not very many cars then.
And aside from the fact that that she lived in Vermont, married Donald Hurlburt, and was the mother of my grandmother and my Great Uncle Rod, that’s about all I know about her.
 This is my mother’s father’s mother. The picture is from the 5th VanTilburgh family reunion. They’ve happened every year since 1909. It is for all the descendants of Mary’s parents. Which would of course include me. I vaguely remember going once the year I lived with my mom in Indiana. Maybe I’ll go again some day.
Back to Mary though. She apparently always went to those reunions. My mom’s father was the first of her three sons. She traveled with her husband David Clement Brandon from Ohio to Arkansas and back to Ohio.
For more, what little I have, click the picture.
My mother’s father’s father. As I post these going through the tree breadth first, this is the first ancestor I do not have a picture for. At least not yet. (I didn’t post pictures for the first few I posted, but there were pictures on the corresponding wiki pages, I was just negligent.)
I don’t know a whole lot about him either. Born 1875 in Darke County, Ohio. Moved to Indiana, then Arkansas, then back to Darke County, Ohio, where he died in 1956.
The first of his three children was my mother’s father. The last of his three children was my Uncle Ed… actually Great Uncle Ed. I visited Uncle Ed’s house a few times as a child. I remember swapping Commodore 64 software with one of his grandkids.
But back to David Clement. The main other thing I know is that he was a Justice of the Peace for 36 years.
For more, see his wiki page.
 My father’s mother’s father. Unlike the last couple of ancestors I have posted about, I actually know a decent bit about him both from memories of my Grandmother and from a published obituary.
He was born in Kentucky in 1891. His first job was driving mules in a coal mine. He later worked for a clothing store, then went to college and met his future wife Maude there. He then started up the management chain at various business colleges ending up being a principal owner and manager of Lockyears Business College in Evansville, Indiana. On retirement he was a good friend of Dale Carnegie and was significantly involved in developing and extending some of the courses and methods used by the Dale Carnegie Training courses. He was also involved in a wide variety of volunteer activities. Died in Arizona in 1962.
Basically born poor, died well off, had some adventures in between. Not too bad.
As usual, click on the picture for more.
 Time for my father’s father’s mother. Again I don’t know all that much about her, but there is a picture. I’m pretty sure that spot on her face is just a problem with the photograph, not something that was really there. :-)
She was born in South Carolina, died in Texas. Married William Ramseur Minter and had four kids including my Grandfather. And that is about all I know unfortunately. Hopefully I’ll be able to find some more info, possibly from relatives who actually knew her (she died in 1964). But that is all I have at the moment really.
 Time for my father’s father’s father. I have very little biographical information about him at the moment. I know he was born in South Carolina and went to Davidson College there. I know who he married and I know her had four kids (the last of whom was my Grandfather). I have a few pictures and know a few dates. But that is about it. I hope at some point I’ll be able to get more information, but I don’t have it at the moment.
As I get deeper this of course becomes very common. There are many many of these ancestors for whom all that is really there is date of birth, date of death, and names of spouses and children. Some of them I might be able to find out more about with some more real world research (not just sitting here at my computer doing searches). But for many, that’s just all the information that is left. Meanwhile these are all people who lived full lives, had many adventures, successes, failures, loves and losses… but all that is remembered is a few dates.
And then of course, there are some places where I can’t find names of parents of some ancestor at all, and then those parents, whoever they were, for them nothing at all is left in terms of knowledge of them. Kinda sad when you think about it.
I think though I probably WILL be able to get more information about William Ramseur. He is recent enough I’m sure there’s gotta be more I can dig up. But we shall see. And for now, I have what I have.
As usual, click the picture for more.
I have now completed posting Generation 2 on this blog. So time to see “where Sam is from” if you consider where ancestors at different generations were born. If you remember the more recent generations:
Generation 0:
100% Wisconsin
Generation 1:
50% District of Columbia
50% Ohio
And now…
Generation 2:
25% North Carolina
25% Kentucky
25% Arkansas
25% Vermont
The center of mass here is definitely moving South… Hmmm… I should put some of this on a map… in my head I see charts and animations… Hmmm… OK, this is probably my cue to shut down and go to bed. Cause if I start thinking that way, I could be up for many hours making maps. And that would probably be bad.
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