23:20:12 Retweeted @NumbersMuncher23:18:35 Khizr Khan is scheduled to be on Meet the Press this week, which is going to be a coordinated media effort to destroy Trump quickly.
23:21:02 Retweeted @NumbersMuncher23:16:47 There was never a compelling reason to vote for Trump. He's not a conservative, he's not a good person, and he's not as rich as he claims.
This week on Curmudgeon’s Corner, Sam and Ivan of course spend most of the show on the Democratic National Convention, with commentary on all the major speeches, and the inevitable comparisons to the RNC the week before. In addition to the DNC itself, they do cover this week’s terrorist attacks in Europe, the DNC email hack, where polling stands today, and Trump’s invitation to Russian hackers. Oh, and for some reason pineapples make an appearance.
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Recorded 2016-07-29
Length this week – 2:01:56
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Show Details:
(0:00:32-0:08:45) Starting Up
Tired Ivan
Ivan’s bad flight
Pineapple
Agenda
(0:09:23-0:48:16) Everything Else
Terrorist Attacks
Trump Convention Bounce?
DNC Emails
Trump’s Russian Invite
(0:49:24-1:17:59) Democratic National Convention Part 1
Convention Comparison
Sanders Holdouts
Booker for President?
Michelle Obama Speech
Elizabeth Warren Speech
Bernie Sanders Speech
(1:18:38-1:39:54) Democratic National Convention Part 2
Roll Call Vote
Dean Scream 2
Bill Clinton Speech
Joe Biden Speech
Barack Obama Speech
(1:41:13-2:01:36) Democratic National Convention Part 3
Chelsea Clinton Speech
Hillary Clinton Speech
Convention Comparison Part 2
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00:22:47 Retweeted @owillis00:10:26 you know i'd ponder the idea that trump has plumbers hacking into the democrats, but he's too incompetent to get it done
00:26:50 Retweeted @SusanPage2016-07-28 23:27:37 The fact that dozens of Sanders supporters have shown up in matching day-glo yellow T-shirts just may indicate they plan to protest tonight.
01:00:10 Retweeted @ThePlumLineGS00:51:48 It seems like a good idea for Ds to welcome Rs and conservatives who are willing to step up and admit the GOP nominee is a madman.
02:05:12 I’ve been doing other things, but here now for Chelsea! #DNCinPHL
02:08:56 Chelsea a bit of a nervous speaker. Didn’t expect that. Thought she had been practicing a bunch on the trail. #DNCinPHL
02:12:59 This speech is good enough I guess, but nothing particularly memorable about it. Bring on Hillary. #DNCinPHL
02:19:47 Retweeted @xeni02:19:34 This is wild. They're introducing the mythos narrative of our First Heroine. A woman POTUS. As a woman watching this — my soul is exploding
02:20:06 Retweeted @annehelen02:19:19 Q: Who should we get to narrate this crucial tone-setting Hillary intro
02:33:11 Retweeted @kenrudin02:33:04 I love seeing the tears on people's faces. This is a historic moment. Let's appreciate this moment. We'll talk politics at another time.
02:33:52 List of the previous speeches. Yeah, yeah. Get on with it. #DNCinPHL
02:34:27 Retweeted @cam_joseph02:31:33 A few loud folks in the cheap seats yelling her down. Crowd now chanting “Hillary, Hillary” in response. #DemsInPhilly
02:35:01 Thanks to Bernie. Bernie still not super pleased. :-) #DNCinPHL
02:35:39 Retweeted @aseitzwald02:35:27 Clinton: And to all of your supporters here and around the country: I want you to know, I've heard you. Your cause is our cause."
02:36:55 Retweeted @daveweigel02:36:45 See those fluorescent shirts in the wide shots? They're worn by Bernie supporters — who are not walking out.
02:38:17 She looks completely in control as she says “Stronger Together”. Nailing the Presidential look. #DNCinPHL
02:38:56 She is doing better than in most of her speeches I have seen. Doing exactly what she needs to do here. #DNCinPHL
02:40:26 Retweeted @politicoroger02:40:11 Hillary: Trump has "taken the Republican Party a long way…
from "Morning in America" to "Midnight in America."
02:40:52 Retweeted @cbrodrick02:38:49 Listen kids, in 1992, it was OK to attack a Yale-educated lawyer for not baking cookies.
02:47:40 Retweeted @ClaraJeffery02:46:48 She's never going to be as soaring an orator as BHO or as intimate as BC, but she's killing it, imo
02:49:12 Retweeted @MikeSacksEsq02:48:06 Trump's I ALONE line was screaming scary when I first read it in advance release, and now it's just a sad man's own goal for the other side
02:50:07 Retweeted @anamariecox02:49:58 Hillary has always needed an enemy in order to show her strengths. Trump would have to be created in a lab to be a better enemy for her.
02:50:14 Retweeted @BraddJaffy02:49:55 Clinton just skipped the line in her prepared remarks, "I ran for President and lost."
02:50:34 Retweeted @AriMelber02:50:23 Trump & Clinton both unusually #unpopular nominees – she takes approach of directly addressing it in her speech, a different tack than him.
02:50:50 Retweeted @ananavarro02:50:42 I'm happy I will be able to tell the generations that come behind us, I was there July 28th, 10:47pm when 1st woman made history.
02:52:53 Retweeted @HillaryClinton02:52:43 "Simply caring is not enough. To drive real progress, you have to change both hearts and laws." —Hillary
02:53:49 This is the best speech I’ve ever seen Clinton give. #DNCinPHL
02:54:33 Retweeted @rebliv02:54:19 Is this the first time Flint water has been mentioned at either convention? I'm kinda shocked it's not mentioned more.
02:55:41 Retweeted @Ihnatko02:55:33 Here we see the GOP's problem. Clinton knows how to appear Presidential. Last week, Trump still looked like a sketchy real-estate developer.
02:56:33 Retweeted @aseitzwald02:56:24 Clinton: "I will be a President for Democrats, Republicans, and Independents."
02:57:03 Retweeted @rabiasquared02:55:57 What I wouldn't do for a live stream of Trump's face right now. Wishing he rocked a white pant suit & knew big smart words. #DemsInPhilly
02:57:31 Retweeted @LeonardPittsJr102:56:04 She's making policy workery a strength, not a weakness. Good bit of rhetorical judo.
02:58:02 Retweeted @Brand_Allen02:55:24 Everyone, including Hillary, needs to stop trying to re-define her. She needs to sell who she is. Uncharismatic & rigid. But smart as hell.
03:00:48 Retweeted @ananavarro03:00:42 Hillary's not an orator at level of Bill Clinton, Obama, Biden or Michelle Obama. But she is holding her own and delivering tonight.
03:01:11 Retweeted @hunterschwarz03:01:03 Clinton: "Democrats, we are the party of working people, but we haven’t done a good enough job” showing that to you
03:02:03 Retweeted @KSoltisAnderson03:01:52 I doubt I'll remember any line from this speech but I will long remember how I felt seeing her hug Chelsea when she came out on stage.
03:02:38 Disagree with her on Citizens United. Should be no restrictions on political speech. At all. #DNCinPHL
03:03:23 “I believe in science!” Yes please. More of this please. #DNCinPHL
03:05:00 She is revving up here. Must be getting close to the end. #DNCinPHL
03:05:36 “Join Us”. Appeal to the folks who might not have been lifelong Dems. #DNCinPHL
03:06:58 Retweeted @BresPolitico03:05:06 Clinton doing all she needs to do in this space, hitting all the Dem/indy talking points strongly, looks determined & presidential
03:09:52 Retweeted @ShaunKing03:09:35 Hillary's strength is not inspiration or storytelling. Her strength are policies and fighting. She finds her stride in those things now.
03:11:41 Retweeted @ZekeJMiller03:11:35 Clinton: “Remember what the president said last night, вЂdon’t boo, vote"
03:12:09 Retweeted @Carma_201203:11:55 Hillary is doing to Trump what every previous Republican candidate should have done MONTHS ago.
03:12:57 Retweeted @LeoShane03:12:49 Clinton: "Donald Trump says he wants to make America great again. He could start by actually making things in America again." #DemsInPhilly
03:14:32 Retweeted @LizMair03:14:18 FWIW, I actually don't think Hillary should smile more. Except if it's when she's obviously knifing someone. Then she totally should.
03:15:46 The rev up for a bit was just to keep us going in the middle I guess. :-) #DNCinPHL
03:16:37 Retweeted @RameshPonnuru03:15:43 I think what we are hearing now is the most specificity on Isis at either convention.
03:18:11 Retweeted @KattyKayBBC03:17:59 Clinton on Trump – A man you can bait with a tweet is not a man you can trust with nuclear weapons.
03:18:33 Retweeted @ezraklein03:18:11 Give how much provocation Clinton has endured calmly, you get the feeling she has real contempt for Trump's thin skin
03:19:16 Save my “You pitiful little man” line for the first debate. :-) #DNCinPHL
03:19:55 Retweeted @DavidOAtkins03:19:46 Hillary Clinton is far, far more effective when she's angry than when she's fake smiling. She should scowl the whole time. Much better.
03:20:18 Retweeted @PamEngel1203:19:37 Clinton: “I’m not here to take away your guns. I just don’t want you to be shot by someone who shouldn’t have a gun in the first place.”
03:21:15 Retweeted @hemantmehta03:19:54 That "bait with a tweet" line fits nicely in a tweet, which means more people will retweet it, which means Trump will get baited. Brilliant. in reply to hemantmehta
03:23:10 Retweeted @scottdodd03:05:11 I like how she laughed after “I believe in science” — like, she knows it’s crazy that it even has to be said & that it’s an applause line.
03:24:18 Retweeted @Fleemanator03:20:10 Hillary Clinton is literally every competent woman who's been passed over for a mediocre man AND COME TO COLLECT #DemsInPhilly
03:32:55 Retweeted @natsecHeather03:32:46 Anne Holton walking out w/Bill Clinton, hand on his arm – literally something she was trained fm birth to do.
03:40:15 Retweeted @WestWingReport03:40:03 Trump got a bounce, Clinton certainly will as well; first debate looms – now 60 days away. November 8: 103 days
04:55:05 Retweeted @SpencerJCox04:44:46 Regardless of politics, it was amazing and gratifying to see my daughter’s excitement for 1st female presidential nominee tonight.
04:55:07 Retweeted @SpencerJCox04:46:17 Things got awkward when she realized Trump was the Republican nominee. “That can’t be right, he’s nothing like us?”
06:35:14 I completely blame Hillary Clinton for the fact that Fight Song keeps going through my head now. #DNCinPHL
07:26:35 Retweeted @AnshelPfeffer07:25:04 Center-left parties should learn from the Democratic convention that patriotism and respect for tradition don't have to belong to the right.
07:36:34 Retweeted @CharlotteAlter04:30:20 Bernie delegate told me "microaggressions" kept them from disrupting historic speech. Many in tears after "being marginalized" #DemsInPhilly
07:39:40 Retweeted @DavidOAtkins06:48:48 Anyone have a good site detailing at a glance, state-by-state polling breakdowns? 538 and RCP are useless for this.
15:01:00 Retweeted @jbarro14:56:20 I just watched the Khizr Khan speech again & cried because we're having an election about whether we value people like him and his late son.
To protect us, President Trump will build a giant mosquito net.
The mosquitos will pay for the net.
16:24:58 Retweeted @stampylongnose16:17:50 Apparently I made my Stampylonghead channel exactly 5 years ago. It still feels like my "new" channel in my head. Time sure does fly.
16:34:19 Retweeted @jbarro15:53:54 How much of today do you think Trump has spent yelling at people about how the Dems had fireworks and why was he told he couldn't have them?
20:49:07 Retweeted @llerer20:16:22 SCOOP: Bill Clinton brought a large blue convention balloon to Charlotte, per his aide.
21:09:59 Retweeted @CochraneCBC20:59:27 Trump says live on CNN that CNN has stopped covering him live because they don't like him. He says this live on CNN.
21:20:59 Retweeted @joshrogin21:03:39 Trump is actually calling for a return to snail mail on my teevee right now.
States with new poll data since the last update: Pennsylvania, California, Oregon, Delaware, Vermont, Indiana
Results from a Suffolk poll in Pennsylvania taken during the first three days of the Democratic National Convention move that state’s average toward Clinton.
The average moves from a 2.0% lead to a 4.4% lead. This is not an insubstantial jump toward Clinton, but either way we classify the state as “Weak Clinton”. Pennsylvania was the tipping point state though, so the tipping point moves too…
The tipping point moves from Clinton in Pennsylvania by 2.0% to Clinton in North Carolina by 2.3%.
This is a pretty small change in the grand scheme of things. Compare to the huge move of the tipping point in Trump’s direction from mid-June to mid-July.
Is the new jag downward the start of a new larger move back toward Clinton? Too soon to say. Stay tuned.
102.6 days until polls start to close…
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01:44:34 Retweeted @JamesFallows01:44:24 The whole point of Bloomberg’s talk, which he’s completely fulfilling, is to *mock* Trump as a much richer NY billionaire.
01:44:56 Retweeted @Nate_Cohn01:44:44 Do the Bernie delegates just not know that this guy is a neoliberal?
01:45:07 Retweeted @KattyKayBBC01:44:59 Bloomberg an effective figure to reach out to independent voters – I don't vote out of party loyalty.
01:45:14 Retweeted @thedaveross01:44:59 Bloomberg: I say to my fellow independents – your vote matters now. Elect a "sane competent person" #kirodnc
02:09:46 Retweeted @THELuisAMendez02:09:39 Just once i'd like to see someone say "Guys, thanks for the nomination. But I can't do this."
02:09:59 Retweeted @TheFix02:09:49 Tim Kaine is an able, competent politician. But, man, after that Biden speech and the expectation of the Obama speech, he is overshadowed.
02:12:26 Kaine is doing nothing for me. Bored. Ready for Obama. Know I should be paying attention to the details of what he says, but… #DNCinPHL
02:20:30 Retweeted @aaltman8202:17:48 Don't know if visible on TV but supportive delegates are hoisting Clinton-Kaine placards to block the many anti-TPP protest signs.
02:20:58 My 6 year old son Alex asked what all the No TPP signs were about. #DNCinPHL
02:21:26 Retweeted @mattyglesias02:21:19 Kaine’s speech is boring and biographically because most non-journalists have no idea who he is.
02:25:32 Retweeted @ZekeJMiller02:25:27 Kaine: And as he's serving our nation abroad, I trust Hillary Clinton with our son's life. You know who I don't trust? Donald Trump.
02:28:20 Retweeted @benjaminwittes02:20:40 My Twitter feed is down on this Kaine speech. But there is no senator who more consistently does the work of being a legislator. So there.
02:33:34 Retweeted @timkaine02:33:24 "Take it from former First Lady Barbara Bush: she said she didn't know how any woman could vote for him after his offensive comments." —Tim
02:53:50 Retweeted @costareports02:53:42 What's striking about tonight: the lack of an ideological case against GOP nominee. Instead it's an overture to Rs, a focus on temperament
02:54:21 Retweeted @AlGiordano02:54:12 Remember, tonight is twelve years to the day of his 2004 speech when y'all first noticed him.
02:56:15 If it wasn’t for that pesky term limit, Obama could pretty easily win a 3rd term I think. #DNCinPHL
02:56:54 Retweeted @THELuisAMendez02:56:46 Obama VERY popular in that hall. Dems' standing by him strongly have helped him in toughest times and during his unpopular phases
02:57:11 Retweeted @KagroX02:54:37 Was there any moment in the video Trump wouldn't have flubbed?
03:02:19 Retweeted @TheFix03:01:56 When you watch Obama, Bill Clinton and Joe Biden, you are watching some of the most naturally-gifted speech-givers of their generations
03:03:07 Retweeted @ZekeJMiller03:02:58 Obama trolls GOP:
"But what we heard in Cleveland last week wasn’t particularly Republican – and it sure wasn’t conservative."
03:03:16 Retweeted @ZekeJMiller03:03:11 Obama:What we heard was a deeply pessimistic vision of a country where we turn against each other, and turn away from the rest of the world.
03:05:36 Retweeted @MarcACaputo02:57:23 2 minutes in and the crowd is in such a swoon that Obama could talk about waffles and they'd go bonkers
03:06:01 Retweeted @MileHighBrendan03:05:50 Oh shut the f*** up, and grow the f*** up, idiot protesters. There's a fascist at the gates and you're yelling at Obama. Go to Hell.
03:10:38 Retweeted @LeoShane03:10:29 Obama: "Until you’ve sat at that desk, you don’t know what it’s like to … send young people to war. But Hillary’s been in the room"
03:11:01 Retweeted @ZekeJMiller03:10:43 Obama: "no matter how much people try to knock her down, she never, ever quits. "
03:11:27 Retweeted @lesleyclark03:11:20 I can say with confidence there has never been a man or a woman, not me, not Bill, more qualified than Hillary Clinton, Obama says
03:12:03 That was a powerful line. Says she is more qualified than either him or Bill. Bill liked the line too. #DNCinPHL
03:12:59 Retweeted @GoldyHA03:12:51 Look how happy Tim Kaine looks. Now remember how shellshocked Pence looks next to Trump. Huh.
03:13:32 Obama on Trump: “Don’t Boo… vote.” Excellent. #DNCinPHL
03:13:44 Retweeted @lesleyclark03:13:37 "And then there’s Donald Trump. The Donald is not really a plans guy. Not really a facts guy, either," Obama says #DemsInPhilly
03:14:23 Retweeted @PatrickSvitek03:14:12 Obama: Does anybody really believe someone who's spent 70 years not caring about working people "is suddenly going to be your champion?"
03:14:33 Retweeted @fmanjoo03:14:16 There’s some mockery coming through in the way he’s kind of chuckling about Trump as he speaks.
03:15:27 Retweeted @NickBaumann03:15:21 Like many people, Obama can't even fucking believe that Trump is the Republican nominee.
03:15:41 Retweeted @PatrickSvitek03:15:34 Obama: "I have to say this: People outside the United States do not understand what's going on in this election. They really don't."
03:16:27 Retweeted @TheFix03:16:19 Obama is at about 75% in this speech. But, that still puts him in top 5% of speech-givers on the planet.
03:16:34 Retweeted @emmaroller03:13:55 Obama is very good at this. If he commits to stumping for Clinton regularly through the fall, Trump is a goner.
03:16:54 Retweeted @PatrickSvitek03:16:44 Obama, as libbing, says Clinton can be a strong commander in chief without torturing people or banning entire religions from entering U.S.
03:17:07 Retweeted @speechboy7103:16:47 It's so obvious that Obama has no respect for Trump; he's not indignant when talking about him, he's exasperated
03:17:37 Retweeted @pbump03:17:27 A succinct rebuttal to Trump’s current argument: "America’s promises do not come with a price tag."
03:18:13 Retweeted @hunterschwarz03:17:55 Obama: "America is already great, America is already strong & I promise you, our strength, our greatness, does not depend on Donald Trump"
03:18:25 Retweeted @sadydoyle03:18:16 The guy who just yelled "FOUR MORE YEARS" at Barack Obama at the end of his second term is like my favorite guy at this whole convention
03:19:02 Retweeted @carlquintanilla03:18:55 "Ronald Reagan called America 'a shining city on a hill'. Donald Trump calls it a 'divided crime scene'." – @POTUS
03:19:16 Retweeted @JamesFallows03:19:10 Now Obama is explicitly embracing Reagan! Complete reversal in emotional position of parties from then to now.
03:20:42 Retweeted @PhilipRucker03:19:27 Obama: "Our power doesn’t come from some self-declared savior promising that he alone can restore order. We don’t look to be ruled."
03:20:53 Retweeted @ChrisMegerian03:20:22 It's sort of striking to watch Democrats paint themselves as the party of values, constitutional principles and national security
03:22:02 “Democracy doesn’t work if we constantly demonize each other” – Obama, as he demonizes Trump. :-) #DNCinPHL
03:22:14 Retweeted @chrislhayes03:21:30 The President of the United States is literally making the case for democracy over authoritarianism. In 2016.
03:25:07 Retweeted @tomwatson03:23:48 He keeps bringing it back to Hillary. This is the farthest thing from pro forma possible. It's generous and effective. And it's leadership.
03:25:12 Retweeted @ZekeJMiller03:24:59 Obama: "we all need to be as vocal and as organized and as persistent as Bernie Sanders’ supporters have been."
03:28:22 Retweeted @ZekeJMiller03:28:14 Obama:
Hillary Clinton is that woman in the arena. She’s been there for us – even if we haven’t always noticed.
03:31:00 Retweeted @gdebenedetti03:20:24 Feels like the best-received argument Clinton and Dems have made all election is landing now: that the very idea of Trump is anti-American
03:32:16 Retweeted @eilperin03:31:53 "I don't know if they had their birth certificates with them, but they were there" @POTUS unscripted line on his Kansas ancestors
03:32:42 Retweeted @lrozen03:32:28 obama on his midwestern ancestors: they did not like showoffs….bullies…or folks looking for short cuts in life. valued honesty hard work
03:35:16 Retweeted @LeoShane03:34:48 Obama: "That’s why anyone who threatens our values, whether fascists or communists or jihadists or homegrown demagogues, will always fail."
03:35:42 Retweeted @peterwsinger03:35:24 That’s why anyone who threatens our values, whether fascists or communists or jihadists or homegrown demagogues, will always fail in the end
03:37:30 Retweeted @russellberman03:35:40 Obama once called Donald Trump a "carnival barker." Now he just called him a "homegrown demagogue."
03:37:57 Retweeted @jimantle03:37:18 Obama's speech likely also tugged on the heartstrings of many anti-Trump conservatives who wish there were Republicans who talked like that.
03:38:51 Retweeted @ariannahuff03:38:43 What an entirely different definition of America —that we become more American by addition and not subtraction #DemsInPhilly
03:45:31 Retweeted @AlecMacGillis03:44:36 Maybe it was just the post-partisan Obama coming through: so striking, his declining to tie Trump to party/movement that gave rise to him.
03:46:01 Feel sorry for guy having to close this thing out after Obama. #DNCinPHL
05:47:26 Retweeted @TimDuffy2016-07-27 21:41:25 It's obvious email isn't secure. The only truly private communication is stuff you say towards the end of a very long podcast.
21:10:42 Retweeted @RichLowry03:22:27 American exceptionalism and greatness, shining city on hill, founding documents, etc–they're trying to take all our stuff